I can only talk about german channels.
There is a channel called "German"(300-600 players) - a rough place to be for new players, but perfectly "EvE'ish". You love it or leave it.
There is a channel called "German Help (Hilfe)"(400-700 and up to 1000 players whenever there is a steam sale or the days after events like B-R) - we are doing our best to help new players and try to keep "trolls" out.

Closing the "official troll allowed channel" will leave some of the "trolls" homeless and there it is your "magnet to draw idiots and victims together" as many of them will simply move to the help channel. Because why would they join a player run channel where they can get banned/muted whenever the "chief of channel" doesn't like him?

Now some may say: Not a problem at all as the german help channel will be heavyly supported (monitored/moderated) by dozens of ISD/GM/CCP, but in fact the last time I've seen an ISD is >10 weeks ago. Who is going to do those "few hundred more bans"?
I know one ISD, one GM and one CCP who can be seen twice a year - how are they supposed to take care of a channel with 500+ players 24/7?

Just take a look at the "official german sub-forum"... 24+ days without any ISD/GM/CCP action. Oceanus? Never heard of it!

"Official supported"

At least give us a button, something like "Channel could really need some moderation RIGHT NOW!"

I can't see how this is a good idea. If you sell a product in a country, you surely support the language by definition? If you don't want to support the language then don't sell the product there seems the order of the day. If you sell the product in their country then surely not having the caveat "But you have to know how to speak another language" is inappropriate.

Telling players to just go make their own channels doesn't solve the problem because you are still responsible for moderating that chat. If someone is racist to me in swahili in a private channel I've created, or indeed any other "private" form of communication, how does that lessen your responsibility to investigate and intervene given that your terms of service have still been breached?

This seems like another example of a sledgehammer being used to crack a nut and is just going to hurt the people from these countries. I only speak the one language (badly) and I can see this is a terrible idea. You still have the responsibility to moderate the chat, and people will still complain to you about the conduct in these chats, the only difference is you got rid of some helpful official channels where people could congregate.

Seems like I'm saying this a lot recently, but way to drive chunks of your players away.

Not really. Take a standard troll who likes to insult others just for the reaction. No matter who the target is. You block him and you're fine with that. The troll however, can continue to harass other players in the same or different channels, endlessly in theory.

The call on the Spanish channel has brought 3 more people here, and I will keep asking to post here if even in Spanish.

If nothing changes, then we'll have to object the change and ask for the return of those channels.

BTW, has someone contacted the CSM? Is there any CSM who speaks a non-supported language and can understand what those channels mean to our communities?

Ah well look at it on the bright side , page 68 and counting on the day the thread is created for the new ''power projection nerf'' off capitals .


Yup , we got such a great community mostly looking out for the newbs and not our own ass ....

The foreign language channel change did/does not have any impact on me as i rarely visit it andd mostly know it from the days when i was new to eve yet i felt the need to stand up for the newbro as most of them can't stand up for themselves as they haven't even discovered the game yet.When i noticed the lack of posts this thread had gotten i was ''shocked'' and after a few days i could only hope that they made a change that would hugely impact the veteran players as some kind of retaliation to their ignorance.

I got a LOT more then i asked for , that i can assure you.

Yup , spot on .


On a sidenote about us merging together into fluid exchanges .. i dunno solecist , let me think about that for a few years before i can give an answer .

After something similar became apparent for the several german channels that got created ("the other german is fake, come and join ours!"), I proposed a feature to declare war against other chat channels (making owner, moderators and active participants legal targets for the same entities of the other cahnnel) to let the field of war decide who the real german channel is (in the german features & ideas forum section, sorry for the language barrier).
Interesting times ahead.